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May. 19th, 2008 | 03:37 pm
posted by: unlikeothers in judgeme_sortme

13) 'Neville is just as important as Harry in the series, due to the prophecy and it shows that they are in fact equal in a lot of ways.'
How far do you agree?

This is something that I definitely agree with. Neville is, from the very beginning, made to look like the useless little boy who can't do magic and does everything wrong. If one looks more closely at him they will see just how he and Harry are alike. Not only was it hard to decipher at first which boy was the one the Prophecy was made about but his whole life, everything that has happened to him, is equal to Harry's. Fair enough, Harry's parents were murdered but Neville's parents will never be sane again; they were tortured to unimaginable pain and they never gave in. It was worse than death in some ways and Harry has to live knowing that he'll never see his parents again but Neville has the reminded that his parents are worse than dead every single time he goes to see them. 
Likewise, Harry was bullied by his relatives at home but this is mirrored in Neville in the way he is treated at school by Malfoy and all the Slytherin gang who pass judgement on him, leading him to believe even more that he isn't worth anything. It is with great pride that I read how Neville killed Nagini because it was proof that the loneliest and most insignificant reminders of one person, someone who is pushed aside by everyone, including his friends albeit accidentally, are in fact the bravest of people. Neville is very much an equal to Harry. He goes through endless pain and plenty misery; he finally makes his parents proud and I love that because it shows that without the little people, the world wouldn't be half as good as it is with them. It is only by the little people's bravery and courage that the 'big' people look big. Neville is a true inspiration in everyone and he deserves all the happiness that comes his way.

14) In a hypothetical situation, if you could posses the Elixir of Life and live as long as Nicolas Flamel; would you drink it? Do you think it would be less appealing because you would have to rely on drinking it to sustain immortality, so it would not be whole and perfect, but you might still drink it? On the other hand would you not touch it because it gives a 'cursed life' as we are told in the Philosophers stone?

Given the chance, I would not drink the Elixir of Life. Life isn't perfect, nor was it meant to be. Knowing that you can only live a half-life is worse than having no life at all. Having immortality is not a happy thing or a good one. To have that kind of power would tear me apart; you would have to watch your friends and family, people who you truly loved and are the most important people in your life, die. You would have no choice apart from the one you had already made. By choosing to drink the Elixir of Life you would be choosing a lifetime of eternal misery. It is the irony of knowing that what you desired most of all is to live eternally and then when you have it you wish you were dead. It is a morbid irony but a self-inflicted one. To drink it would be like a death sentence that you are laying on yourself. It is painful and slow and would leave you completely powerless to everything without it, something that someone wanting power could never live with. By drinking the Elixir of Life you would be giving away everything you hold dear, including people you love and your own independence, making you nothing more than a low life begger that will never return to the person who they once was.

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Sylphette

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from: miyukiryuu
date: May. 19th, 2008 05:57 pm (UTC)
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Your answer abut Neville is a lot clearer than mine, and expresses more or less what I wanted to say but didnt quite get round to doing it.. :D
Yay for Neville =]
You make a good point about family and friends in #14 actually. LOL why didn't I think of that? All my talk of the immortal man, and I didn't even think about family and friends. Argh,
Too busy thinking about it in principle. or on a theoretical level I suppose.

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Yvette

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from: unlikeothers
date: May. 20th, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
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Thank you. I just like the idea of the little people being the biggest ones of all =) they mean so much more than people give them credit for and Neville is just such a perfect example of this and I'm so happy that JKR decided to show people that. She gives so many messages in her book but I think this is one of the more important ones that people need to wake up to and realise.

I liked your answers so I wouldn't worry about it. Mine was extremely subjective now I've read them again! Your answer about the immortal man was great and it ties in with all the family/friends stuff, we just wrote in different ways xD

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Sylphette

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from: miyukiryuu
date: May. 20th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
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Fair enough, thanks :D
Yeah she gives so many messages, especially to with morality and things.
Aswell as the personal emotions of the characters and how that relates to concerns of humanity as a whole I guess. I'm reviving my interest in Quirrel at the moment. Its interesting because he's so early in the series, yeah and he's so weak to the ways of power. He speaks of Voldemort teaching him that there is no good and evil only power, and those too weak to seek it. I think that is a really amazing statement abut the world to encounter in the very first book...
Anyway yeah.
And yay for the immortal man! Ahaha.
xxx

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Yvette

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from: unlikeothers
date: May. 25th, 2008 06:51 pm (UTC)
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Woah, I can't believe I've been so busy I have only just managed to make a reply like I wanted! Anyway, yes ITA about the Quirrel quote in the first book being great. It was very deep for the first book and I think it shows the greatness of her writing as people say that the books got better as they went on so that statement is huge. I'm re-reading Half-Blood Prince at the moment and I found this passage on page 469, (in the English version this is.) The Chapter "Horcruxes":

"Why couldn't he make a Philosopher's Stone, or steal one, if he was so interested in immortality?"
"Well, we know he tried to do just that, five years ago," said Dumbledore. "But there are several reasons why, I think, a Philosopher's Stone would appeal less than Horcruxes to Lord Voldemort.
"Whiel the Elixir of Life does indeed extend life, it must be drunk regularly, for all eternity, if the drinker is to maintain his immortality. Therefore, Voldemort would be entirely dependent on the Elixir, and if it ran out, or was contaminated, of if the Stone was stolen, he would die just like any other man. Voldemort liked to operate alone, remember. I betlived that he found the thought of being dependent, even on the Elixir, intolerable. Of course he was prepared to drink it if it would take him out of the horrible part-life to which he was condemned after attacking you, but only to regain a body..."


It was immediately after I'd answered the second question of the newly added ones that I read this and it got me thinking about what I'd said about the Elixir of Life and it also links with the comment that Quirrel made about there only being power and those too weak to seek it. It shows everything that someone who wants eternal life would despise. They would have no personal dependance, they would have to rely on someone or something else for eternity and (just like in the case of Voldemort) that is something entirely unnacceptable.

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Sylphette

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from: miyukiryuu
date: May. 30th, 2008 07:30 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that quote was swirling around my head when I was writing my answer about immortality. Ahh I just really love alot of the things that are introduced into the series. Recently i've been getting into reading about alchemy and stuff, and it just hit me with blinding obviousness the other day, about Nicolas Flamel's role as an alchemist, which adds alot more depth and layer to his pursuit of immortality, especially the whole thing with the stone, in the first book. Its all to do with alchemical stuff, I think. Why didnt I notice that before?? Anyway. I shall re-read, and put my mind to it. Also, I am particularly ineterested in what this 'half-life' that Voldemort was in, this sort of pergatory. I want to know what it feels like. to be so ridiculously fragile and delicate, so as to not even possess an earthly form, but still possess a mind and a thirst for life, and a thirst of ambition. Imagine, if your entire phantom like essence was composed of wraithlike resentment, and a thirst for power. What would that really feel like? Would you feel the thirst like an obliterating ache to be sated, even though you wouldnt have the physical nerves to feel the sensation? I think Voldemort gives a pretty powerful description of his state, in GOF to his assembled Death Eaters. I should re-read that. Maybe i'll write something about that one day. Yeah wow. Anyway!
I hope you havnt been too busy! Are you preparing for exams or some such?

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Yvette

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from: unlikeothers
date: Jun. 3rd, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
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I like Voldemort's description as well in GOF with the Death Eaters; it explains his 'fight' to getting back to the full being he was standing in front of them. It encompassed all power and he presented the exact idea that you're talking about with feeling the ache even though there was no physical thing to 'feel'. He gives such a dramatic yet enticing speech to his followers that they admire him all the more, even though what he had done was something to be disgusted about rather than praised.

I was just insanely busy trying to find a job (xD) and get some Work Experience and prepare for a big family get together that we had over the weekend. It was my Auntie's birthday and the first time that everyone has been free to all be together. My cousin was visiting who now lives a couple of hours away so me and my other cousin (her sister) was making plans to go out next time she was up. Just random things really! haha

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Sylphette

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from: miyukiryuu
date: Jun. 4th, 2008 11:36 am (UTC)
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Yes! I agree, its a really powerful, and undeniably enticing speech.
I may have to write something about his wraithlike existence, because its really interesting. Although I never actually write fic itself, I just read lots and lots of it. Perhaps I should write some, hmm I dunno.

Ohhh! Wow well! Good luck finding jobs and things.
Cool, fair enough. Ahhh my exams are FINISHED now! All done, so im not busy anymore. I did patheticly in my Philosophy exam though. ugghh. Ah well whatever huh.

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